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Open Community :: RE: Surface Transportation Boa...
Author: chaz4moving
Subject: Surface Transportation Board Valuation Decision Effective April 2, 2012
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:13 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
Or is it, once again, more paperwork for legitimate movers while the scammers continue to ignore the rules & regulations and still do business. The government seems to love killing trees.
Open Community :: RE: Moving from CT to Denver -...
Author: John Adams
Subject: Re: Moving from CT to Denver - crazy quoting
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:56 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
Chris,
My first reaction to the crazy premium from Rogovin and the unwillingness by Derosiers to give you a Not To Exceed may be coming from their level of comfort as to which direction this inventory is actually going to go. It looks as though Rogovin was willing to gamble and give you a Not To Exceed but with a 20% cap, most movers do a 10% cap, and that Derosiers is just avoiding the cap altogether as you may be going back and forth with the items that you intend to ship and he/she is unable to get a clear sense as to what you are going to send.
Be sure and be clear with everybody with regard to your intended list. Try to have your mind made up before you walk your movers through. If you cannot, have your mover create a separate list of "Unsure Items" so that you and he/she can go back and re-visit that list.
Ask for a copy of the inventory from all of your movers that you meet with to be sure they are listing the same items. That list should be formatted room by room.
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Open Community :: RE: Hey pros, is it just me?
Author: GP6971
Subject: Re: Hey pros, is it just me?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:24 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3
I've seen a couple of these type claims over the years, but the one that got me was a table got damaged and severely scratched and our employee wanted to fix it himself and he wouldn't even charge us for his labor......just $3,750 for materials. When pressed for what the materials consisted of, it was "you know, sand paper, stain etc".
Open Community :: RE: Hey pros, is it just me?
Author: BigLeeCalif
Subject: Re: Hey pros, is it just me?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:54 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3
No it is not just you. And it isn't just COD shippers who pull that scam. We see it quite often with military shipments.
Usually the old plasma/lcd tv was working just fine when it was loaded, but now it doesn't work at all.... even after being shipped upright with tipntell attached.
The other day someone alleged theft of some very expensive medication from her purse.
I haven't seen the 10k stolen item yet, but have seen expensive baseball card collections, coin collections, and heirloom jewelry.
In every case, there was no proof it was ever tendered, because it was not inventoried, and all pbo cartons checked off.
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Open Community :: RE: Move with United Global fr...
Author: BigLeeCalif
Subject: Re: Move with United Global from MD to FL
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:49 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
Talking about playing off established names.
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Open Community :: U-Haul website MovingHelp....
Author: Movinghelper
Subject: U-Haul website MovingHelp.com directs consumers to unlicensed workers
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:32 pm (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 0
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/236041/250/UHaul-pushing-illegal-workers-on-consumers-
TAMPA BAY, Florida -- It's a Fortune 1000 company ignoring Florida law; the 10 News Investigators discovered U-Haul is pushing unlicensed movers on customers, putting consumers at risk.
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Open Community :: RE: Surface Transportation Boa...
Author: wood5150
Subject: Re: Surface Transportation Board Valuation Decision Effective April 2, 2012
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:40 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
Just another way for the pro's to separate ourselves from the scammers. Trust me, most scammers will still only have .60 cents per lb listed on their estimates, which will now be against the law come April 2012.
All intersate estimates will now be require to have this verbage included. Customers will need to opt out from full coverage and choose .60 cents.
Open Community :: RE: Surface Transportation Boa...
Author: Movinghelper
Subject: Re: Surface Transportation Board Valuation Decision Effective April 2, 2012
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:08 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
For clarification, I suggest and highly reccomend that they go to the link provided. It is appropriately color coded and as written.
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Open Community :: RE: Surface Transportation Boa...
Author: MusicMom
Subject: Re: Surface Transportation Board Valuation Decision Effective April 2, 2012
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:05 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
MH, could you indicate by color how much of what you typed above is the new required statement on the estimate? Is it just the third paragraph begining at "warning" or is the next two as well?
Open Community :: RE: Moving from CT to Denver -...
Author: Movinghelper
Subject: Re: Moving from CT to Denver - crazy quoting
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:53 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
www.movingscam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8038Similar
http://www.bbb.org/connecticut/business-reviews/movers/rogovin-moving-and-storage-company-in-new-london-ct-72000631
So it looks like you have one from an Allied agent and one from and Arpin Agent.
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Open Community :: RE: Moving from CT to Denver -...
Author: ChrisFromCT
Subject: Re: Moving from CT to Denver - crazy quoting
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:46 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
okay - a few more today, will do averages
I tried to tell these guys the exact same thing
- give me a full pack, assume I will do pantry/cleaning supplies
The NTE premium had me worried. Here is the thing . . .random anonymous reviews of Rogovin are pretty bad on-line though nothing showing up here/bbb
Open Community :: RE: Hey pros, is it just me?
Author: BillAdams
Subject: Re: Hey pros, is it just me?
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:43 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 3
My opinion: Most people do not own a $10k piece, and those who do are sure to keep them safe when the movers come. Common sense should tell everyone not to ship expensive jewelry or cash. These claims are false.
My story: This past summer, a customer of mine moving within Greenwich, CT (wealthy community) was more than delighted when our crew presented her with a small plastic box they found in her basement during the packing. It had been hidden by her recently fired housekeeper, and had several pieces of jewelry that they had collected with the intention of stealing. The tennis bracelet alone was worth $10k.
They received a very nice tip.
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Open Community :: RE: Moving from CT to Denver -...
Author: Movinghelper
Subject: Re: Moving from CT to Denver - crazy quoting
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:30 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
Wait till you get them all. You will find an average weight from them all. Then give them the option to compare all of the same quote.
One of your quotes has a full pack price but the other one has a pack by box price.
Make sure the apples are apples and oranges are oranges..
Also they all have a fuel surcharge, ins charge and origin and destination charges. Sometime this is clear to the customer but it is more for the back of the office and driver on those fees.
Some companies do not break it our because it only confuses the real price which is the bottom line.
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Open Community :: RE: Moving from CT to Denver -...
Author: MusicMom
Subject: Re: Moving from CT to Denver - crazy quoting
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:15 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
What kind of variables are there? That may make a difference in comparing the prices. The pros reading this will want to know to give you some guidance.
I don't think bumping the price up to give a Not To Exceed is in any way weird. A NTE quote sets a cap over which you cannot be charged, should your weight be more than estimated for the same number of goods the estimator looked at, but if your shipment weighs anything less than that 7500 pounds, you pay for that actual price. The estimator believes you have 7500 pounds either way. But *just in case* he's wrong, that premium covers the company from losing major profit. You can set your budget knowing that you'll either pay that amount or likely even less, and they're covered in case some of your stuff actually weighs more than it looks like.
If you don't like the premium, don't do it. You run a small risk of having to pay for the extra weight in case the estimator was wrong, but usually these professionally trained movers are very good at what they do, and the actual number will not be far off.
Open Community :: RE: Surface Transportation Boa...
Author: Movinghelper
Subject: Re: Surface Transportation Board Valuation Decision Effective April 2, 2012
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:11 am (GMT -6)
Topic Replies: 5
I actually like this. It places a lot of the responibility on the customer to make that decision clearly. If they just sign the paper without reading it, it also states that they have received the Right and Responsibilities and have read it. So it appears all of the drivers that pick up loads will also have to have a copy of it in case they have not received it.
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